Money and Me: What happens after the recent S-REIT crash?

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15 November 2022

Money and Me: Money and Me: S-REITs vs T-bills & SSBs. Who trumps?

Just recently, Singapore REITs experienced one of its biggest sell off in 20 years. In fact, latest numbers from the iEdge S-Reit Index also revealed more than 15% decline in total returns year-to-date! 

But fret not, because on this episode of Money and Me, Dan Koh and Zia-ul Raushan invite Kenny Loh, REIT Specialist and Independent Financial Advisor who will be sharing more about what investors should be doing amid the S-REIT sell off and where he sees value in the real estate investment space. 

 

 

Transcription:

Introduction

Singapore’s REITs and Property Trusts S-REITs Sector declined 7% in total returns. Latest numbers from the iEdge SREIT index also revealed that more than 15% decline in total returns year to date. S-REITs, which are traditionally seen as reliable income instruments, are starting to lose their appeal to investors. So against the backdrop of the recent SREIT sell-off, what should investors be doing? Today we ask Kenny Loh, REITs Specialist and Financial Advisor.

Q: Give us an overview of the current S-REIT market and how it has performed so far. (1:32)

It has been a rollercoaster for the past one or two months. Basically, if you look at the REIT Index itself, actually the capital it with a huge sell off of, 70% in September after breaking the support. If you look at index itself, the support level is about 790 – 800 level, and which has been holding very well for the past two years. Right after the sell off the REIT index itself reached the two year low of 660 points.

And after that the REIT index rebounded strongly with a gap out for the past two weeks of about 11%. That’s why you can see that more and less there is more or less V-shaped recovery. And today, uh, this morning, and when I look at the REIT index itself, basically the rebound momentum should continue.

Q: The US Fed’s recent delivery of its fourth consecutive 75 basis point rate hike and likely to further rate hikes in December by probably 0.5%, but we are still looking at that now. What do you make of this and how much of a pullback in share prices of as rates are you expecting? I mean, how do you see them responding to this news? (2:28)

I think at the present moment the REIT sector in Singapore has already priced in this rate hike. Based on last Friday, if you look at the inflation, inflation came in lower than expected, right?
That cause the huge rally on the US stocks itself. That’s why Monday the REIT index have a gap up and you can see the bullish moment coming in. So the present moment, actually yield spread is pretty wide. The selloff is really overdone.

If you compared to the price to book evaluation and also valuation you for the whole REIT sector itself, we are getting very close to the COVID crash level in March 2020. Which does not make sense because if you look at the macro environment and also the business environment, they are doing better than the covid crash because during Covid crash, everything locked down. The whole world economy has halted. And nobody knows what’s going on. At that point the sell-off is warranted and based on today’s valuation, it doesn’t make sense to me. 

Q: S-REITs are commonly seen as a safe haven in periods of volatility and uncertainty. But recent weeks have shown that it has struggled to stand up against the aggressive arising interest rate environment, and a potential recession. So, Kenny, what should investors do now? Is it the right time to buy the dip and has S-REITs bottomed up? (4:14)

It is important to do ‘bottom fishing’. I’m currently doing bottom fishing for myself and also for my clients because at the end of the day, we are investing in REIT for it passive income for our retirements. So as long as an investor has not really achieved their passive income goal, probably maybe 10,000 per month, first of all, they have to sell a target first, as long as they have not met the goal, they can use this price weakness to continue to accumulate more because investing in REITs like investing in real estate.
If the price/book value is 0.8, which means that 20% discounted valuation, if you just think of it, its like a property on Orchard Road selling at 20% discount, right? While in the macro environment, rents are going up. And you look at it, the valuation continue goes up. The rental goes up. Now the market gives you a huge discount because of a fear in the market. It’s a good time to accumulate. Nothing to worry about it.

Past REIT Index chart (2 years). V-Shaped Rebound on the way?

Q: But that raises the question if we should be investing our cash into safer investment tools like T-Bills and SSBs, because SSBs current return rate over 10 years is 3.47% and for T-Bills about 4%. It is worthwhile taking the risk? (5:45)

There are pros and cons. T-Bills very sensitive to interest rate. It’s pretty short term. You’re talking about six months and one year. In the rising interest rate environment you can lock in th high interest rate, but how about six months later? The rates will go down. You also cannot liquidate a T-Bill easily. If you want to liquid it in between, you need to sell at the market, you may incur a loss. You will have to make sure to hold until maturity.

For SSBs, you can lock in for the next 10 years, around 3.4%, if I’m not mistaken. Redemption period is only one month. That’s why I’m using SSB for my emergency fund and you can lock in for the next 10 years.

But on another hand that you do not have an opportunity to participate in the capital application. Right. So that is a disadvantage on the, the SSB itself. Also if you have 200,000 now, based on the last allocation, I think that each individual investor have been allocated about 10,000.

Moving forward, I think the next month it’ll be even lower because interest rate is much higher than the last issue. But REITs itself, they are currently undervalued. Eventually there’ll be a mean reversion. When that happens, you can enjoy the high yields of 7.4% average! Even Blue Chip REITs give you 6% easily. And some of the overseas property REITs are currently having 14% ttm yield!

The Yield Spread is pretty high now. In short, invest in Singapore. This gives an investor a chance to really participate in the upside, at the same time to be rewarded 6-7% yield. At the same time, you are also getting paid, and the dividends are much higher than SSB yields.

Q: Based on the recent reporting season, how do you think S-REITs performed? Were there any surprises or shocks that stood out? (8:28)

No big surprises. I would say that if compared to year on year, DPU growth is 50-50, half of REITs are doing better compared to the past year, half of them slightly below expectations. More noticeable however are hospitality REITs. We stared off from a very low base and of course definitely they perform much better during this period and moving forward when China is going to reopen,
I think it’s pretty soon because they cannot lock down forever, and Chinese tourists, when they do start traveling Asia and Singapore should become one of the top destinatiosn for Chinese tourists.

The Hospitality and Retail Sectors in Singapore are then expected to do well.

Q: What about those in the industrial sectors for S-REITs? How do you see the sustainability of their profits in the long term? (9:38)

So far, based on the past earnings of performance, they are still giving good DPU. It’s quite stable. It’s not really a factor. And they are also able to pass some of the costs increases and/or inflation by rising the tenant rentals and also increasing service charges. So I would say that those industrial, which have a very strong sponsor and also have very good track records, they are able to weather through during this period from the performance we have seen so far.

I believe they are experienced enough to have all different tools to really navigate during the high interest rate and also high inflation period. So especially when it come to the hospitality sector, you can see that hotel rates are being adjusted every day. They are able to adjust it as quick as possible to really capitalize and pass the costs onto the guests. the.

Q: Are there any S-REITs that have the potential to withstand prolong economic shocks and thrive during high inflation? (10:46)

There are quite a number of REITs investors should be careful of. Especially those with high Gearing. Also, a weakening economy environment. Because once your economy environment weakens, potentially your future rental will be affected. That will affect your portfolio valuation. Because valuations are based on the discounted cashflow for the future, and that will decrease the REIT’s NAV, and thus Gearing Ratio increases.

If they have short Debt Maturity profiles, they’ll have to refinance at higher interest rates. Lenders look at your balance sheet to see whether you’re strong or not strong before they can decide what kind of interest they’ll provide you. At the same time, if their Interest Coverage Ratio (ICR) is low, That also indicates the weakness in terms of the cash flow generation. If they’re not able to generate enough cash flow to really pay off all the coupon rate or interest rate, the REIT will be in trouble. They have to either sell the current property (that will further decrease the DPU), or they have to issue additional rights.
It is also a bad time to issue rights, since the share price is very low. But if they issue the rights now, that will further depress the share price. REIT managers will try to avoid that.

Q: Which sectors look particularly attractive to you? (12:23)

Typically, I have 3 different themes to investing.

First theme: If an investor wants really stable, predictable REITs, just stay with the industrial sector because industrial sector is normally stable. But you still have to look at REITs with a lot of business parks. Because if the tenants are SMEs, with the recession period, you’ll have a tougher time navigating the recession period. But those big MNCs like those in the tech sector, with good cash flows, they can continue operations and pay rental. With blue chip industrial REITs, you should be able to have very stable dividends.

Second theme: Reopening play. I’m banking a lot on China. When China ends lock downs, and tourists come out, there’ll be the revenge spending and revenge traveling phenomenon again. We’ve done it before, right? So we cannot underestimate the spending power of all those China tourists. Certainly that will help in the hospitality sector. For the Hospitality sector, we have to stay with those hospitality REITs that have very wide exposure to China tourists.

Third theme: Third will be more on eCommerce, because eCommerce and also digitalization of the economy, you cannot run from it. The world is going through technology transformation. Everything will be digitalised. So data centres are another area I’m looking at for growth purposes.

Q: Now Kenny, moving on to overseas, Cromwell European REIT, IRETI Global and Elite Commercial REIT have suffered a brunt of risk off-sell off this year and is shared between 21.6% and 30.8% to date. In your opinion, do you think this sell-off was overdone and do they look attractive now? (14:25)

Yeah, REITs with overseas property looks very attractive to me now. But for Europe itself, there’s another element which is currency, right? Because if we are Singapore investors, if you are looking for the dividend payout in SGD itself, if you look at the Euro and the British Pound and their depreciation, that may be another reason why Singapore investors shun away from all these European REITs based on the currency of itself.

But if investors have not really invested in those countries yet, the yield is pretty attractive first thing. Second thing, the valuation is very cheap. And third thing, both Euro and the British Pound are very cheap. If you have a long term horizon, why not?
Invest and wait for the rebound of the currency and also rebound on the valuation. Eventually they’ll go back to the meanover the long term.

Q: How do you expect REITs to perform for 2023 and what Buy, Sell, Hold indications should we look out for? (15:46)

I have a cautiously bullish view on S-REITs themselves. I studied the past 10 years asset allocation returns of different asset classes. REITs used to perform very well for the past 10 years and whenever the prior year has a huge sell-off, the subsequent years for the S-REIT sectors you have a very strong rebound on the subsequent year. So, for me, basically I’m using this opportunity to lock in the Yield because the Yield is pretty high. At the same time, you are buying some REITs or property at a cheap revolution and just wait for it to recover. Do not really need to worry too much, and eventually properties are properties. Eventually the valuation goes up and also the rental income goes up. That will translate the growth in the future.

Historical Performances of each sector over the last 15 years.

 

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Money & Me: Further Interest Rate Hikes, FHT’s failed Privatization bid

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16 September 2022

Money and Me: What could unitholders responsible for FHT’s failed privatisation bid be holding out for?

Frasers Hospitality Trust, suffered a 24 percent dip in share prices after a $1.35 billion proposal to take the trust private fell through.. The privatisation offer seemed generous enough,– at a 7 per cent premium to net asset value (NAV) But earlier this week, the global hotel and serviced residence trust clocked in 74.88 percent of shareholder votes who were in favour of the proposal, narrowly missing the 75 per cent needed for the resolution to pass. Many market watchers were surprised including our guest Kenny Loh, REIT Specialist and Independent Financial Advisor.

We find out why and ask if hospitality Reits listed in Singapore – which have seen a remarkable revival in fortunes-  can continue their march forward. Michelle Martin and Kenny Loh also take a closer look at the S-reit landscape month-on-month performance across sectors.

The article version (transcribed) of the interview can be found below.

 

 

 

Transcription:

Introduction

We’re surveying the REIT universe. Frasers Hospitality Trust suffered a 24% dip in its share price, after a 1.35 billion proposal to take the trust private fell even though the offer seemed generous. Cash offering of 70 cents per stapled security, a 7% premium to its net asset value by sponsor Fraser’s Property.

But the global hotel and service resident clocked in 74.88% of shareholder votes, just missing 75% that it needed for that resolution to pass. So we’ll take a closer look at that. Also scanning Mapletree Pan Asia commercial trust, seeing a bullish call by DBS on its share price. And in just a while, we’ll also take a look at Parkway Life REIT and their move to further expand their Healthcare REITs portfolio over in Japan. 

 

Q. Can you give us a sense of an overview of how REITs have performed the past month? I understand that the year’s best performers are hospitality trusts and the worst performers are REITs with 100% overseas assets.

Right based on the latest month of performance, actually, there’s a sell off across the board for the whole REIT universe in Singapore. And based on last week, with inflation data coming out, there was a sell off in the US Stock market, and Singapore REITs are not spared too. And if we are looking at a whole index itself, the REIT index is really forming some sort of bearish chart pattern, the falling wedge. This I don’t like as an investor, as the breaking down the support of this may result in a larger sell off of the Singapore itself.

So, last month was a pretty bad month for Singapore REITs. And at a present moment, the REIT index is holding at the critical support level.

 

Q. For the failed Frasers Hospitality Trust privatisation bid, why do you think unitholders rejected this privatisation bid, despite the attractive offer?

I was surprised unitholders rejected this privatization. I thinkthe offer is pretty good based on past performance. I think why the unit holder they rejected the offer, I think is all down to the price. Because if you look at a price chart, historically Frasers Hospitality Trust used to trade between 63 cents to 86 cents.

And close to 70% of the time, they are trading above 70 cents value, which means that most investors who invested in Fraser Hospitality Trust, basically they’re losing money. And coupled with a dividend, maybe some of them probably would breakeven with the share price and also the dividend from a total return perspective.

So I think that mainly on a price perspective, but however, It is actually a narrow miss of 75% mark because the 74.88% who voted for the prioritization is only 0.12%, which a small number. So I think that with the adjustment of the share price during the next attempt, probably you’ll swing these unitholders to vote for the privatisation.

 

Q. What would privatization mean for unitholders of FHT?

There are two scenarios. One scenario is a privatisation does not go through. Based on the current portfolio, I think there are a lot of challenges for FCT to turn around because there will be too much uncertainty, e.g. Rate hike and inflation. Also by looking at their debt portfolio they may have to face the refinancing risk pretty soon, because they currently have a high gearing ratio of 39.3%. And at the same time, they have a decreasing DPU trend, even during pre-COVID. So is the NAV/Unit value.

This means that fundamentally, I think the current portfolio is not a fundamentally strong portfolio. Coupled with all these uncertainties, if shareholders continue to hold onto FHT and FHT faces refinancing risks, they will then have to issue additional rights. And that will further dilute the DPU and also the share price. Although the sentiment in the Hospitality REITs recovery is good, there are better choices out there.

For example, CDL Hospitality Trusts, Far East Hospitality Trust and Ascott Residence Trust. If you look at the offering price itself, they are offering 1.07 times of the NAV (book value), which is pretty high at the present moment. Ascott is only trading at 0.94, FEHT at 0.7 and CDLHT at 0.97. The principal is much higher than those relatively better Hospitality trusts out there.

 

Q. What are the possible headwinds for FHT that you see?

One would be the continual decrease of DPU. The other possible concern would be the resurgence of COVID around the world, which will dent the hospitality sector. And at the present moment, the ICR is also pretty low. I may have a concern that they may turn out to be the next Eagle Hospitality Trust, where they are not able to pay the dividends.

 

Q. Mapletree Pan Asia Commercial Trust is trading at a yield aboe 5%, at $0.89, with a bullish call by DBS. Do you think MPACT’s valuation is attractive right now?

I do agree with the DBS call because if you look at the present price to book value, it is trading below or close to minus one standard division of the five year average. In other words, it’s undervalued. And if you look at the forward earnings and the forward DPU, the forward DPU is expected to rise.

2 reasons: one attributed to the future easing of restrictions for Hong Kong and China. Eventually China will ease COVID restrtctions. And Festival Walk, one of the famous retail malls in Hong Kong, definitely will be benefit from this reopening and reduction on quarantine measures. Festival Walk contributed 21% of MPACT’s NPI. So a reopening of a China will help, uh, Hong Kong itself.

And at the same time, also we will help Singapore because right now we have very few Chinese tourists coming to Singapore due to all the restrictions. When the borders reopen, there’ll be revenge traveling. We have seen it for Singapore. Once it opens, everyone goes out. We don’t even care about air ticket prices. They’ll come here and perform revenge traveling and revenge spending. This will help VivoCity, which contributes close to 22% of the NPI.

So if you combine this two major properties, that is a 43% contribution to NPI benefitted from the reopening.

 

Q. When it comes to MPACT, do you see any possible risks ahead that investors should be aware of?

Yes. Yes, there, there are risks. After the merger. There are two risks in this expect. One of them is a fundamental risk. So the fundamental side, if we have a slower than expected reopening of China and Hong Kong, or we are entering into a severe recession because now everybody is talking about recession. A severe recession will defnitely impact DPU. That is more on the fundamental side.

The other aspect is the political aspect because we know that now tension is pretty high between US and China on the Taiwan issue. So if any incident creates a war, maybe they just fire the missile out to each other. Right. Or they have a sanction on China or sanction on Hong Kong or whatever thing, definitely you affect the sentiment of the investment community.

 

Q: Do you think these latest acquisitions are a positive for ParkwayLife REIT’s portfolio? PLREIT has recently acquired 3 Hokkaido nursing homes.

Yes. positive because with the current high price to book value, about 1.94 times, and also the low DPU yield of about 3%, any acquisition out there would be quite attractive because definitely it’ll be much better than the current valuation and also the DPU.

This acquisition actually is yield-accretive. They are getting 6.5% NPI yield. And at the same time, the valuation of this property is 12% below the valuation compared to the REIT valuation itself, it is pretty attractive. There definitely be a retating after the portfolio to be integrated into the REIT.

And at the same time, a very low cost of debt. You just imagine that you are borrowing with an interest rate of close to 0%, and you are investing in some properties generating 6.5%. The spread is huge. It’s really a no brainer. 


Q. Can you help us understand how PLREIT has been performing compared to pre-COVID levels?

Yeah, it, it really depends on each investor. When was their investment time? Five years ago. Definitely. This is one, this is one of the best REITs. But if its only for just after COVID or maybe one year ago, probably performance is not so fantastic but still quite good.

So I’m just referring to the, the, before the COVID and also based on the past five year, if you come just purely come back to the previous high of the pre COVID at the present stock price, it has already surpassed the previous pre-COVID high up by 25%. Other REITs do not have this kind of performance.

Yeah, because REITs at the present moment is coming down, and subjected to sector rotation. At the same time, the DPU has been growing steadily over year since the IPO and PLREIT is unscathed during the COVID period, they continue to pay good dividend, continue to grow that dividend, due to the strength in the underlying portfolio that’s why they’re able to combine such a high premium to the book value at the same time that did not go to the correction during this period.

Q. What is your feel of the recessionary headwind? And what could this mean for REITs?

Investors need to be selective in this case because during the recession period, most of the companiesthey’ll be going through cost cutting measures. First of all, they’ll try to reduce expense. Secondly, they start to cut headcounts. Thirdly, they may shut down the facilities. Tenant profile is important. If the tenant profiles are very strong, they’re quite reputable and they are in essential industries, definitely they can tide through this recession pretty well.

The Logistics and Industrial sector probably is more defensive at this time. Healthcare is also defensive. I think Singapore should be able to avoid the recession. So retail malls in Singapore, they’re probably more resilient in nature because we cannot live without retail malls.

Nowhere to go, nowhere to eat, nothing to do. If we are entering a recession, everyone will be tightening their belts. The hospitality sector will be impacted. Tourism will be affected. But at the same time, there is a revenge spending phenomena when China reopens, because everyone there have been locked down for three years. Right? You, you just imagine the potential explosion of the needs to spend and to travel that may maybe kick start and help us in the recovery of the global economy. 

 

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Money & Me: Q3 2022 SREIT winners

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19 August 2022

Money and Me: Q3 2022 SREIT winners

Kenny Loh, REIT Specialist and Independent Financial Advisor looks at the top performing SREITS for Q3 2022 and where value in the market is. The article version (transcribed) of the interview can be found below.

 

Timestamps

0:18 Intro

1:19 Kenny’s clear winners in Q3 2022 this year

2:00 What are the drivers for the good performance for them this year? (EC World, DHLT, Data Center REITs)

Digital Core REIT

3:02 How does the performance of Digital Core REIT compare against its past results?

4:27 What does Digital Core REIT’s planned acquisitions mean in the near term?

DHLT

5:22 Daiwa House Logistics Trust: Will Logistics Trusts continue being a strong driver in the near term?

7:18 How will Japan’s inflation rates impact DHLT?

EC World REIT

8:03 How is EC World REIT performing, despite China’s covid-zero policy?

9:57 Who are the laggards in terms of performance? (poor performance)

 

Transcription:

Q. Kenny, who are the clear winners for Q3 2022 in your book?

It’s quite clear cut that the data center and also industrial are in the rotation play. They actually performed better in Q3, since one and a half years ago. So the top three performers in this quarter would be Digital Core REIT, gone up by 18%, Daiwa Logistics trust about 18% also, and also EC world about 17%. But all this top three performers basically are not really fantastic news. They basically just recovered from the knee jerk sell off in the private quarters.

 

Q. What are the drivers for why they’ve done so well so far? And do you see any correlation between that and the recovery in global markets that we’ve.

Yeah, based on the fundamental itself, basically these 3 REITs, the valuation is not really over-stretched before the sell off. So during the sell off, basically there are some negative news because one of the hedge funds came out with a report to really short the data center space.

Right. I read the fundamentals, I read the reasoning. I do not agree to it on, on the data center space and for the EC World REIT itself, basically that there was a fear of they not able to do the refinancing. That’s why during that period, during the uncertainty, uh, there is a sell off until they’re able to really delay for one more year to do the refinancing.

So after all the negative news gone away, basically it’s really back to the normal valuation.

 

Q. Now, when you take a look at the winners, and the top five REITs, if we start with Digital Core REIT, Kenny, how does the performance of Digital Core REIT compare with what you’ve seen in terms of its past results?

Yeah, so, so far, in terms of the share price department, Digital Core REIT, Actually the share price has recovered more than 20% after hitting a bottom of around 70, uh, US cents. But if you look at the NPI and also the DPU, basically, there’s nothing so fantastic. It’s quite comparable to the forecast, the NPI for first, top of 2022, it’s only go up by around 5.9%.

Okay. Not, not so bad. And the DPU just missed by 1.4%, uh, giving a distribution of 2.06 cents versus 2.09 cents as the forecast. But if you look at the yield itself, the estimated annualised DPU, basically at the present moment at current stock price, giving us 4.8%. And this 4.8% annualised this description view is quite comparable to KDC.

And, and at the same time, in terms of evaluation itself, mm-hmm, Digital Core REIT has a much attractive evaluation and also financial ratio compared to capabilities. Digital Core REIT has a, a lower gearing ratio at 25.7, which means that they have a lot more debt room for the future acquisition. At the same time, the price is about 1x.

 

Q. Speaking of future acquisitions, Digital Core REIT is a pure play data center REIT, and it has said it’s gonna be looking at new markets like Chicago and Dallas and Frankfurt for acquisitions. What could this mean in the near term?

In the near term, I would expect them to continue to grow their portfolio because if you look at the initial portfolio as well, the tenant concentration is pretty huge.

They are only focused on few tenants. So in order to really diversify away all the tenant concentration risk, uh, risk, they probably have to, uh, grow it. And, and that is part of the, the plan in the IPO. So in the near term expect they will, uh, announce, uh, some of the new acquisitions based on their low gearing.

Hopefully they don’t really need to, uh, issue additional rights and also, uh, do a lot more private placements that dilute the shares. Hopefully they just finance the whole thing for that.

 

Q. Interesting. Let’s look at Daiwa House Logistics Trust, uh, which is among the top five performing trusts for the third quarter of 2022, currently up 21.3%, but for the quarter 18%, we saw a movement up. Now, when it comes to Daiwa House Logistics Trust, it said that it expects demand for large scale logistics to continue to be a strong driver all the way till 2023. Do you agree with them?

I tend to agree because if we are looking forward into the future as well, in the least for the near term, they are basically two catalysts to push the logistics sector and warehouse sectors to do well.

The first catalyst will be this logistic space continued to be driven by the growth in the e-commerce and also wide adoption of the eCommerce. So in order to have a very efficient eCommerce that need the modern warehouse for logistic system or even a supply chain system to handle the huge volume in a very efficient way.

And, and beside the very efficient way, we also need to look the speed, and also, uh, the core structure for the logistic itself. So if we are continue to use the old, old warehouse or old logistics system, you are not able to be competitive moving forward. So modernization on the logistic and also supply chain warehouse probably the drives the REITs to continue to upgrade their warehouse base.

That is the first catalyst, right? For the second catalyst itself for the past two or three years. We also know that we have many, many shutdowns and also cause a lot of supply chain, uh, disruptions. So the manufacturer was forced to change their model from just in time (JIT) to just in case (JIC) models to keep an inventory to prevent all this kind shut down, uh, from happening again, because that is quite destructive to the manufacturing. And also the whole thing you drive up the on the inflation.

 

Q. Do you expect the way Japan is grappling with inflation to impact Daiwa House Logistics Trusts’ earnings?

When you come to the investment space, uh, there is something called movement in sympathy. Maybe the stock market does not really care where is your location? Right? When there is a sell off, you expect the whole sector to sell.

Then after a while, the, the, maybe the institution, a problem manager have to go and deep dive and to see which REITs have a minimum impact, then that may probably cause a recovery. So, sentiment is important and sector rotation is important in the REITs space so far

 

Q. So how well do you think another one of in the group of the top five that we’ve seen EC World REIT how well has it done? Despite China’s continuing COVID zero policy.

Right based on the revenue and also the NPI publish, uh, in the latest earning, uh, just, just bear in mind that all this data are lagging.

I don’t really see that, uh, there is any, uh, big impact, EC World seems that holding quite well, uh, in this, uh, zero correct policy, but my biggest concern will be moving forward. It’s not for the past one or two years because moving forward, how EC World are going to manage. And they have refinancing need to be done within in one year’s time.

And China economy is not doing well. Right? There are two fronts. One thing is the GDP is started coming down, right? The growth start to slow down that will affect the business itself. And in return that will also affect the property valuation. Right with the high gearing and also dropping of the valuation itself, it makes, uh EC World much more difficult to do the fundraising or, or do the debt, uh, refinancing.

And also the other thing to signal that China is currently going through the property and also mortgage crisis. So the bank would be very reluctant to, to loan it to the real estate sector because they do not really want to expose into a real estate sector. So, so I would see that probably all the banks in China, they are pulling back and reducing the exposure to real estate that make EC World even more difficult to do refinancing.

So, uh, for me, uh, forward looking risk is much more higher than the, the past financial performance.

 

Q. Who are the laggards in terms of performance?

The laggards uh, US Office REITs, quite surprisingly based on the past few, so called the earnings release by Manulife US REIT, Prime US REIT and KepPacOak US REIT.

It is quite, I I’m seeing that actually the, the return to the office is not a fast compared to Singapore because Singapore, for, for employees in Singapore, we being asked to go back to the office to work. I think we are more obedient, but ask yourself, it’s taking a little longer over there. Huh? Right, right. Actually the, you can see from a, the data itself, actually the workplace, uh, occupancy is pretty low, right?

And also, uh, this also cause in, uh, uh, slow down in the leasing space and, uh, hybrid work mode of work is still preferred in us moving forward. So that will probably, uh, drag in the US Office sector. But if you really based on the fundamental itself, based on evaluation is pretty attractive. So in terms of share price, I would say that for the Q3 Q4, probably no one wants to take such a risk.

Yeah. But if you are looking for long term, right, five years, 10 years, you can do some study on the fundamentals itself because some of them the REITs are not really impacted. And the financial ratio is also pretty good. Also. Uh, it’s pretty attractive.

 

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